Curse

Lionhe4rt · Sep 23, 2007, 07:44 PM // 19:44

easy fix; give all old characters a new title called "War Veteran" , it looks 1337, they can't get survivor though and everybody will be happy. (yeah... riiight)

Necris · Sep 23, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

I can't believe you people are whining and complaining about titles.

Tsk.

DamFiNo · Sep 23, 2007, 08:55 PM // 20:55

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Originally Posted by Necris

I can't believe you people are whining and complaining about titles.

Tsk.

Can only say......... QFT.

Spazzer · Sep 23, 2007, 10:11 PM // 22:11

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Originally Posted by Government Flu

(I started when Factions came out and didn't use any wikis/online information until I beat the game.)

I've deleted the ones that have failed, including a 9 month old R2 survivor.

Gosh! You deleted a character at 9 months? That must have been incredibly painful for you, even though it had less than 1.3 mil experience. How did you defeat all those ninjas and wolverines over summer break? Reading this has made me realize how much my situation relates to yours.

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Originally Posted by Heimdallw32

KoaBD is an -optional- part of the game. There's no actual in-game benefit to having it.

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Originally Posted by Necris

I can't believe you people are whining and complaining about titles.

I can't believe they've been made into a function of benefit for Guild Wars 2. They are not "just for fun" anymore.

wetsparks · Sep 23, 2007, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I made a suggestion thread a while back that would have allowed people to get Survivor title and LDoA title after beating the game. It was simply a quest at the end of the game for Survivor, given by someone in the end game area (after last mission) in Factions and Nightfall and by Glint in Prophecies. It was a fair suggestion and people ripped it apart because they were willing to delete their old characters and I should quit whining and do the same. In my thread I also suggested a quest from Glint that would alow you to go to a hard mode type pre-searing and after getting 120,000 exp or whatever it is to get to lvl 20 you get LDoA, this would take a long time just like original LDoA because of no quests and large groups to split exp, just run around killing high level mobs, this suggestion pretty much got ignored.

MithranArkanere · Sep 23, 2007, 11:31 PM // 23:31

It's true that the survivor title is senseless unfar as it is, but removing it is not the answer. Being able to retake it anytime its the answer.

Yes, it's a title about luck more than anything else, but it's a title that many people already earned and added to their HoM.

Crowell The Fallen · Sep 24, 2007, 05:01 AM // 05:01

I don't think survivor should be removed.
However, i think another title related to EXP should be added, so that the old characters before survivor have something they can achieve too.

ValaOfTheFens · Sep 24, 2007, 05:58 AM // 05:58

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Originally Posted by FelixCarter

People that have Survivor, I tend to stay away from. Last thing I want is a person who jumps out of a group at the first sign of trouble.

What person going for Survivor pugs? Only someone who's trying for the first time would get into a group. I've been letting my Heroes do the work and doing better than I normally do in quests and missions due to a mandatory increase in attention span.

Which says not to pug.

Blah...I have more to say but will say it in the morning.

Mohnzh · Sep 24, 2007, 06:24 AM // 06:24

I think Mithran hinted at this, but I didn't see it mentioned explicitly. Would people be opposed to a title that is LIKE the survivor title, but it resets every time you die. So if you get so much experience without dying, it show up. But the moment you die, the counter resets and you lose the title. It would be "maxable", but not count towards KOABD because it would be loseable. Yeah, it's a little "easier" than the way it is setup now, but it gives the chance to get it to the players that started their main chars before the title was available.

Lourens · Sep 24, 2007, 07:19 AM // 07:19

on my necro i got rank 3 and im proud of having died 2000 times on my ranger whahaha

FelixCarter · Sep 24, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by Mohnzh

I think Mithran hinted at this, but I didn't see it mentioned explicitly. Would people be opposed to a title that is LIKE the survivor title, but it resets every time you die. So if you get so much experience without dying, it show up. But the moment you die, the counter resets and you lose the title. It would be "maxable", but not count towards KOABD because it would be loseable. Yeah, it's a little "easier" than the way it is setup now, but it gives the chance to get it to the players that started their main chars before the title was available.

People won't like that at all. Especially the ones who wasted their time getting the title.

I still think that a new title should be added that LDoA and Survivors can never have access to. It will allow everyone in the game to have the same amount of titles if (and only if) they work for them.

Let Survivors keep their glitched and random title.

But if ANet adds such a title, I bet you anything all the Survivors here will start to complain that they should have access to it.

william1975 · Sep 24, 2007, 10:39 AM // 10:39

I think the main issue for the Op here is that there are two titles that were unknown of when he started, and are impossibel to gain now for him, as they are for my main charcter, and with the addition of the HoM and the use of titles in unlockign things in GW2 this is unfair as not getting it may affect that game.

removig the title is unfair, simply because people have worked hard to get both Survivor and LDOA, I myself have managed to get one character to level 3 of survivor, soloing it or with my partner, it took time and effort and i don't want to lose the title now.

However my favorite toon, Calisto, was created before the onset of titles, and could nto get either or these.

Simply put i would like for a new tite doable only by those failing Survivor and not having LDOA. This as others suggest is the only fair and viable solution to this flaw.

bilateralrope · Sep 24, 2007, 11:23 AM // 11:23

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Originally Posted by JeniM

Mention a reputation title and everyone yells GRIND GRIIIIIIIIND!!!! at you get you mention survivor and people seem to defend it

Because the survivor title is currently only a vanity title with no effect on your combat ability. The reputation titles directly effect your characters abilities in combat, which means that regardless of your skill level not having them worsens your character.

TheRaven · Sep 24, 2007, 01:24 PM // 13:24

I still like my solution the best. I posted this in another thread somewhere that was griping about the survivor title.

Create a new "difficulty master" quest somewhere in the game that would require a lot of time and skill to reach. Perhaps something along the lines of earning both the fow and uw clearance monuments and a new NPC pops up in the Hall of Monuments offering a new quest. This new quest requires you to slay 10 infamous bosses (Urgoz, Kanaxai, Mallyx, Shiro, Glint, Lich, Abaddon, etc). Once you've accomplished this, return to the Hall and the NPC gives you your quest reward which includes a 1 time only death counter reset to 0.

This quest is not repeatable. The counter can only be reset once. If you blow it, tough.

EternalTempest · Sep 24, 2007, 01:36 PM // 13:36

/not signed

That being said, don't have any GW2 unlocks via HoM for Survivor and Legendary Defender of Ascalon. (Still keep the statues).

Government Flu · Sep 24, 2007, 01:41 PM // 13:41

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Gosh! You deleted a character at 9 months? That must have been incredibly painful for you, even though it had less than 1.3 mil experience. How did you defeat all those ninjas and wolverines over summer break? Reading this has made me realize how much my situation relates to yours.

Actually, it wasn't painful at all. I was just sharing an experience to strengthen my point and you decide to rip and tear into a simple comment with viciously sarcastic overtones.

Perhaps one day you'll realize you're playing a game that'll eventually die out as newer and better sequels, revisions, and concepts come out. Perhaps you'll realize that a few letters constructed into one or two words that hang below your character's name means next to nothing in the grand scope of things.

Until then, continue to gripe about how unfair life is. Continue to demand justice in the most insignificant areas possible. I posted a respectful counterpoint and you just had to show your teeth.

I'm done posting in this thread. Good luck with your mission.

Explodie · Sep 24, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

If you delete survivor then quit 60% of guildwars with playing, why did they spend 1.337.500 XP without die'ing, if they gonna delete it?

So really not /signed.

I rather quit playing, when they delete this title ...

Spazzer · Sep 24, 2007, 06:19 PM // 18:19

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Originally Posted by Government Flu

Perhaps one day you'll realize you're playing a game that'll eventually die out as newer and better sequels, revisions, and concepts come out. Perhaps you'll realize that a few letters constructed into one or two words that hang below your character's name means next to nothing in the grand scope of things.

And perhaps you'll realize that we pay real money for this game, and I'm being short-changed for being a customer from the begining.

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you just had to show your teeth.

I've never hidden them.

Dougal Kronik · Sep 24, 2007, 06:35 PM // 18:35

Anet should just make a third title that those characters who have LDoA or Survivor are excluded from.

Like; there is LDoA but you can't get Survivor and vice versa.

thezed · Sep 24, 2007, 08:46 PM // 20:46

Great Idea! In the meantime, let remove everything else I can't get! I know, Im horrible at PvP, so lets remove all the PvP titles!

*end sarcasm*

/not signed. Removing content is rarly a good idea, esp such a popular title. If you can't get it on your main char, create a new one and try it there. If you can't get it at all, then maybe survivor is not for you.